04/03/2003-PZ-Minutes-RegularMINUTES: PLANNING AND ZONING
April 3, 2003
PRESENT: Jack Richardson, Ken Perry, Polly Dwyer, Ralph Cain
ABSENT: Ginger Burt, Gail Goodner
OTHERS
PRESENT: City Manager Jack Smith, City Secretary/Assistant City Manager Rose Chavez,
Assistant City Secretary/ Administrative Assistant Samantha Renz, City
Engineer Mark Owens, Harold Johnson, Joe Falls, Allen Bussen, Jane
Richardson, Steve Koch, Trisa Koch, Don Frazier, Nathan Olson, Eddie Lane
1. Jack Richardson caUed meeting to order.
2. Approve Minutes: April 3, 2003
Polly Dwyer moved to approve the minutes as presented, SheUey Ruland seconded,
Motion Carried Unanimously.
3. Consider and Possible Action on Preliminary Plat for Creek View Addition, Located in
the E.T.J. off ofF.M. 2450.
Jack Richardson asked if the size of pipe had been approved.
Steve Koch indicated Bolivar Water is doing the engineering.
Jack Richardson asked if the Fire Department would be able to put a fire out in that
area.
City Manager indicated it is not in the City limits.
Steve Koch asked if he could do without the cuU-de-sac if he could prove that the
County didn't require it.
Discussion regarding the cuU-de-sac length.
SbeUey -Ruland moved to accept the Preliminary Plat for Creek View Addition as
presented, Ken Perry seconded. Motion Carried Unanimously
4. Consider and Possible Action on a Final Plat for Creek View Addition, Located in the
E.T.J. Off ofF.M. 2450.
Shelley Ruland moved to accept the Final Plat for Creek View Addition as presented,
Ralph Cain seconded. Motion Carried Unanimously.
5. Conduct Public Hearing to Consider a Concept Plan on a Proposed Planned
Development (Lake Ridge Estates) on Property Legally Described as Abstract 29, Tracts
57, 58 & S9. The Proposed Development is for 2S1 Single Family lots and a Multi-
Family Area. The Property is located on McR~ynolds Road.
Public Hearing opened.
Allen Bussell, 1621 Amanda Court in Ponder, representing Don Frazier on the project,
indicated that he wanted to explain why they were asking for the density they were
asking for. There is a·large pond, and it is next to the flood plain which reduces the
area they can develop. They have one-60 foot collector road into the single family area,
and the engineer recommenced a second fire lane which they added. The dimensions
of the property led to the dimensions shown on the plan. At the end of the cuU-de-sac
there is an area for pedestrians to get to the park area.
Jack Richardson asked about the possibility of putting in round-a-bouts in to help with
traffic.
Allen indicated they could do some other traffic controlling devices, but ~dicated
round-a-bouts took up a lot of room.
Polly Dwyer expressed concerns regarding 251 homes coming out on one road. She felt
the rare lane was a good idea. •;·
Discussion regarding the property layout and if there were any other options on getting
another street in.
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Ken Perry asked Mr. Lane if he would consider selling property for a road. .. .
Mr. Lane indicated he was open for suggestions.
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Ken Perry indicated he was also concerned about 'the amount of traffic coming out OD
the one road to McReypolds. · · ...
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Discussion continued.
Don Frazier indicated they had looked at every possible way to put in another road.
They are not planning to developed the entire 251 lots at once, there wiU be three
phases.
Polly Dwyer indicated she would like to look at the zoning. She indicated the zoning
they have set their lot sius to was planned for the downtown area, not for new
development.
Mr. Bussell indicated he designed the lots to fit in this area, and this is the size lot they
needed to make it tit.
Discussed size of homes would be about 1200 square feet, with pad sizes about 40 X 60.
Allen Bussell indicated the lots are a little small but there is a lot of open space.
Polly Dwyer indicated she would like to see it go to at least 7000 square foot lots.
Don Frazier indicated they ran it at 7000 square feet, and this would cause him to lose
about 37 lots, at that size they could not afford to do the project.
Discussion regarding the spillways, and flood plains.
Discussion regarding the water flow on the south end by McReynolds Rd.
Polly expressed concerns regarding the water, and indicated she felt it would be putting
water onto the road if there was a big rain. She was afraid there would be a flooding
problem.
Shelley Ruland asked who would maintain the park land.
Don Frazier indicated the city ordinances required a donation of park land. They plan
to dedicate it to the city.
Discussion regarding the park areas.
Polly asked why they couldn't go with larger homes and larger lots. She felt they had
a great area with being close to the lake.
Don Frazier indicated they were trying to serve the market in Sanger at this time, and
stay between 100-12S thousand dollar homes.
Discussion continued.
Harold Johnson, Choice Homes, indicated he brought some information on the homes
they would build, they were looking at 1400 to 2000 square foot homes. They have a lot
of variety in what they do. Some will be two story and some will be one story. They will
probably be from the 120's to 150's and be very attractive to families. Most people can't
afford 200 thousand dollar homes.. This will give them an alterative.
Eddie Lane, indicated he owned surrounding property, and that eventually it would be
developed. He went over the layout of the flood plain areas, and indicated they were in
favor of the development. He felt it would be a good asset for them.
Allen Bussell indicated it goes back to design as to bow this is going to work long term.
Everyone will be within walking distance to park land. The design works and is still
affordable.
Ken Perry asked in what phases it would be built.
Mr. Bussell indicated there would be three phases, and the fint phase would include the
water and sewer improvements.
Joe Falls, 4489 McReynolds Rd., indicated be owned the property South ofMcReynolds,
he complimented the concept plan. He could not see that they could get the utilizatioa
projected and accomplish the spill way, be advised that be gets more water on his
property than be can handle now. The water through the spill way will be greater than
it has been the last thirty yean. They may have to consider other alternatives to keep
the water out of the road and get it to the bridge.
Don Frazier indicated they are planning to put some asphalt between the houses and the
dam. He did not feel they were putting more water into the pond from this
development.
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6. Consider and Possible Action Regarding a Concept Plan·-on ·w··Proposed Planned
Development (Lake Ridge Estates) on Property Legally Describ~,as~bstract 29, Tracts
57, S8 & S9. The Proposed Development is for 2S1 Single Family lots and a Multi-
Family Area. The Property is located on McReynolds Road.
Polly Dwyer expressed concerns regarding the traffic and the drainage. She would like
to see a lesser density.
Jack Richardson asked what the possibility would be to acquire a R.O.W. on the
property North of this out to 45S.
Shelley Ruland indicated when another development does come to the North, they are
going to want to tie into this development to have another access, if the R.O.W. is
dedicated at this time, it may not be where it will be needed in the future.
Jack Smith indicated Heritage West only has one access, and Sanger Trails has 800+
homes and 208 apartments dll.Dlping out on one road.
Discussed it was a 60 foot R.O. W. and 37 foot street.
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Jack Richardson felt they should put in tum lanes at the end at McReynolds on the
main road.
Shelley Ruland asked if the city had any liability with the pond. They could dedicate
the west side to the city, and allow the Homeownen Association to maintain the pond.
Shelley Ruland indicated it did not address fencing around the housing. She felt the
planned development should include wood fence being .put around the housing area.
She wanted it included in the plan.
Discussed the landscaping.
Discussion regarding the fences.
Discussion regarding signage.
Polly indicated if they put in three lanes she could handle the traffic; however, was still
concerned with the density and would like to get closer to SF7.
Shelley Ruland moved to accept the Concept Plan with three lanes coming at the
intenection with McReynolds Road, wood fencing around the housing development
area, traffic control devices on the main road, and making sure they will not cause any
flooding down stream for a planned development, Ralph Cain seconded. Motion
Carried Unanimously.
7. Adjourn