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05/17/2007-PZ-Minutes-RegularMINUTES: PLANNING AND WNING MAY 17,2007 PRESENT: Paul Edleman, Brian Hutchenon, Gary Bilyeu, Glen Jensen, Russell Martin OTHERS PRESENT: City Manager Jack Smith, City Engineer Rob Woods,Engineering Coordinator Samantha Renz, Steve Koch, Trisa Koch, Byron Wadden, Bill Fuller, G. Reid Langg, Jr., Margaret Lang, Rusty Patton 1. Call Meeting to Order. 2. Minutes: May 3, 2007 3. Conduct Public Hearing to Consider a Concept Plan relating to a future Zoni.llg Request Change from AG (Agriculture) to PD (Planned Development) on Property Legally Described as Abstract 1024, R. Prather Survey, Tract 4, Being 29.373 Acres and Abstract 103, P.S. Black Survey, Tract 18, Being8.301 Acres. Property is Located North of Indian Springs Subdivision and East of Choctaw Ridge Estates. Public Hearing Opened. No Discussion. Public Hearing Closed. 4. Consider and Possible Action Regardi.llg a Concept Plan relating to a future Zoning Request Change from AG (Agriculture) to PD (Planned Development) on Property Legally Described as Abstract 1024, R. Prather Survey, Tract 4, Rei.Ilg 29.373 Acres and Abstract 103, P.S. Black Survey, Tract 18, Bei.llg8.301 Acres. Property is Located North of Indian Springs Subdivision and East of Choctaw Ridge Estates. City Engineer, Rob Woods, recommended they change the name from Choctaw Ridge Phase 4 to something different. Gary Bilyeu indicated they should address each item individually. He read the lint item as follows: Water: This area lies within the Bolivar Water Supply Corp. (BWSC) CCN and the City limits of Sanger. Therefore, this development will be required to provide fire protection. The waiving of this requirement can jeopardize the City's overall insurance rating and can place an undo financial burden upon the citizens of Sanger. BWSC will need to provide documentation to the City of Sanger to insure that their water system can meet the minimum fire protection requirements. ColDIDission discussed Yn Protection and Bolivar Water. Steve Koch indicated that Bolivar water has SDR Ultra 21 and dae City's standanl is C900. Bolivar water has agreed to put in fire hydrana, and he (Mr. Koch) will put in C900 as dae City requires. City Engineer indicated a letter from Bolivar Water will need to be submitted stating that daey will provide fire protection. Discwwion regarding dae pneedure for a Planned Development. The following items from dae City Engineer's letter was dbcus.,ed: Traffic and Roads: This development as shown is to be served by one entrance and that will be off of Choctaw Ridge a county road with a width of approximately twenty-four feet (241 with barrow ditches to handle the stonn water runoff. Staff is recommending for ~ connection to be provided to the east for future connectivity and a future second point of access to the development Road.Standards; The applicant is requesting for an asphalt county road section which would be a minimum of twenty-four feet wide with barrow ditches. Shown below are the city ordinance(s) pertaining to this item. · City of Sanger Ordinance -Ch. 10, Section 6, Article 6.02, Section C, paragraph 1, states that Residential street paving shall be a minimum of thirty-six feet £362 in width. measµred between the faces of curbs. If City Council & P&Z Commission chooses to modify this requirement then Staff would like to recommend that a concrete pavement section be utilized within this development • and that the overall street width would be no less than twenty-four feet with barrow ditches to ac:c:ommodate stonn water runoff. This will coincide with the Indian Springs which' is adjacent to this proposed development The City as part of the Capital Improvement Program is replacing existing asphalt pavement section with a concrete pavement section located within Indian Springs. The cost difference between the concrete pavement section and asphalt pavement section isapproximatelytwelve (12%) to fifteen (15%) percent with conaete being slightly higher. The cost comparison was made by utilizing recently obtained bids for the Indian Springs Phase 1 -Capital Improvements Program. Shown below are the city ordinances pertaining to this item. Mr. Koch indicated that a 12 to 1S% increase is a lot of money. The profit margin is not there todo concrete. Be indicated daere is a lot more involved daanjmt dae actual pavemeat. Galy Bilyeu indicated tbat Mr. Koch is giving quite a bit to dae City, he's giving large homes and loa, which will create tu revenue. In turn, Mr. Koch i1 requesting a waiver from concrete streets. A property owner in the-audience indicated that Im main concern was the incrased traffic and dninage. There ii already a dninage problem in the area. Mr. Koch indicated the dninage will be detained, the nmoff will not be incrased. Discussed tnffic flow. Paul E«lleman indicated that if they include the acces., to the East, it will sit for however long it takes to develop the property to the East. Property ownen espreaed ·concems regarding incrased tnflic through their subdivision. Disamionfollowed. Steve Koch indicated be was asking for compromises. He ii notgettingCitywaterorsewer, but be ii giving the City 28 new homes. The nest item dkcussed was the following: Landscaping and Sidewalks: Sidewalks: City of Sanger Ordinance -Ch. 10, Section 6, Article 6.03, states that Sidewalks in industrial areas and planned developments will be as required by the city. Discussed that Mr. Koch ii requesting a variance on sidewalks. Driveways: If City Council & P&Z Commission chooses to modify this requirement then Staff would like to recommend that a conaete driveway be constructed within the public right-of-way limits. Shown below are the city ordinances pertaining to this item. City of Sanger Ordinance-Ch. 3 Article 3.1200, Section 4 states that All driveways shal be construct.ed using 3000 psi concrete with #3 bars at 24' o.c. In accordance with NCTCOG standard specifications, latest edition. City of Sanger Ordinance -Ch. 3 Article 3.1200, Section 2 -paragraph E, states that All driveway culverts within the ci(y shall be designed to accommodate 100 year storm events and shall be constructed in accordance with TXDOT standards with minimum 6:1 headwalls. Mr. Koch indicated he will put in Concrete driveways from the road to the house and culverts per City ordinance. The next item di1cussed was the following: Signage: The applicant is requesting forfour(4) monument signs. Staff recommends two monument signs located at the main entrance. All monument signs will need to be located outside of the public right-of-way. Maintenance of the signs shaU be the responsibility of the property owners or the Homeowners Association. Mr. Koch indicated that was an enor on bis part, be did only intend to have two signs, and • they will be outside of the Right of Way. The roads were addressed again, dncus.mn continued regarding asphalt venus concrete streets. A property owner asked if Mr. Koch bad poaibly considered purdlasing the 15 acres to the North for an additk,nal entrance to the subdnion. Discussion followed nganling roads, deed restrictions and the architectunl review committee. Paul Edleman asked if they allowed him to put in 11n asphalt road would be dedicate the right of way for the entrance to the East. Mr. Koch indicated that he would. A property owner asked if Mr. Koch could be asked to help improve the emting road. Paul Edleman indicated it is a County road and they cannot do that. Dacus.,ion continued. GlenJemeo indicated be was in preferenceof eoncreteroads,and was worried about setting a precedent. Russell Martin also indicated he was in favor of requiring concrete roads. Disamion reprding the proposed development. Gary Listed the items the collllllismon would like added to the PD. ·1. A letter from Bolivar Water as di1cuaed. 2. A copy of the Arcbitectunl Control Restrictions 3. The R.O.W. dedication to the East. 4. Change the name of the development. Paul Edleman moved to accept the concept plan with the items as spelled out. Brian Hutcherson seconded. RUMell Martin indieated they were giving him variances on the sidewalb, and curb and guttered streets. He felt like they were giving him evetytbing he requested, and he would like to see them stick with concrete streets. Dwcussion followed regarding concrete versus asphalt and the maintenance involved. Motion canied 3 to 2, Glen Jensen and RUMell Martin voted against. S. Consider and Possible Action Regarding a Preliminary Plat for Indian Lane Elementary SchooL Property is Located on Indian Lane, North ofMcReynolds Road, and South of Sanger High School. Discussed drainage. Discussed current and future locations of sewer lines. Brief discussion regarding the preliminary plat. Brian Hutcherson moved to accept the Preliminary Plat for Indian Lane Elementary SchooL Glen Jensen seconded. Motion carried unanimously. 6. Consider and Possible Action on Review of Zoning, Subdivision and Building Ordinances. Gary Bilyeu indicated he would like the election of the Chair and Vice-Chair on the next agenda. Samantha Renz indicated this item is put on the agenda after the annual appointments are made. Gary Bilyeu indicated he wanted it on the next agenda. Cecile indicated she would like to present information to the Commission on Planned Developments at their next meeting. Gary Bilyeu indicated each commission member should still be working on their designated area of the mning ordinance and be asked Glen Jensen to look at the Industrial portion. Cecile Carson indicated the next discussion on the master plan is June 9t11 from 9 to 11 a.m. at the Clear Creek Intermediate School. 7. Meeting Adjourned.