08/10/2006-4B-Minutes-RegularMinutes:
Members
Present:
Members
Absent:
Others
Present:
4-B Sanger Texas Development Corporation
August 10, 2006
Nel Armstrong, Beverly Branch, Thomas Muir, John Payne, John Springer and
Glen Ervin
Kim Shaw
Jack Smith, City Manager, Rose Chavez City Secretary/Asst. City Manager,
Cecile Carson, Economic Development Director, Brent Chance, Nate and
Wendy Cottle, Kem Green, Michael and Karen Dill
1. Presideqt Nel Armstrong called meeting to order.
2. Conduct Public Hearing on Proposed Projects.
President Nel Armstrong declared public hearing opened.
Brent Chance, 306 Deer Run, addressed the Board and emphasized that the residents
in that area are excited to finally get a park; however, they want to make it very clear
they are strongly against the skate park. Mr. Chance indicated that the citizens feel
that a skate park benefits only a small group of citizens. Mr. Chance expressed that
they would like the Skate park to go in another designated area. This neighborhood
has lots of small children which is a safety concern. The citizens are also concerned
with tra~c and the noise that it would create. Mr. Chance indicated that Denton has
a skate park and it is well supervised and it is there understanding this park will not
be. There are 214 homes in that neighborhood and 103 signatures were on the petition
he presented to the board that were against the skate park. Mr. Chance indicated that
the Park's Board has never contacted the residents in that neighborhood as they have
indicated, on this issue.
John Payne inquired on the ages of the small children in the neighborhood. It was
indicated by Mr. Chance that the children in the neighborhood were less than 10 yean
of age.
Discussion on the ages of the children and how old does a child have to be before they
want to punue skate board roller skating.
Nate Cottle, 309 Deer Run Drive, addressed the board and spoke against the skate
park. He indicated he participated in the collection of the signatures. He advised that
most of the residents that he approached were against the skate park. He also
emphasized the lack of supervision.
Thomas Muir inquired as to how many homes did this petition cover.
Mr. Chance indicated about 50% which is about 110 or 115 homes, currently occupied.
This included Mom and Dad signatures. Discussed that 150 homes were contacted.
Michael Dill, 115 Teal indicated that the Park will be right in front of their home. They
are happy that the park will be in that location; however, he expressed they are against
the skate park for safety concerns and supervision.
Kem Green, 1000 Keaton, indicated she does not live in the neighborhood. She
addressed the board and reported that she has been made aware there are 60 to IN
skate boarden in the city limits and there are 500 soccer playen that commute to
Gainesville to play soccer. She emphasized the need to utilize those funds for soccer
fields which accommodates more families. She indicated skate parks are a nuisance.
Her profession in real estate sales does include Quail Run and those streets in that
neighborhood are very crowded. There are also kids who travel to Denton to play
soccer at the YMCA in Denton. Ms. Green emphasized the importance of soccer fields.
John Payne inquired on where did Ms. Green get the statistics that there is around 100
skate boarden in the city and the 500 soccer playen.
Ms. Green indicated that from Paul Eddleman (chairman of the Parks Board) gave her
that information. Her concern lack of supervision and safety.
Karen Dill also advised the Board she participated in getting the signatures. She
expressed that she was against the Skate Board and the noise this would create.. These
kids that do skate board are now doing more dangerous things.
Glenn Jason, 129 Maned Drive, also spoke against the skate park. The main concern
was the residents do not want this in their neighborhood due to the traffic concern.
This is not what the developer told them that the park would be when they bought their
home.
John Springer inquired on the liability issues that the City would incur.
Rose Chavez, City Secretary, advised that she had contacted TML the city's insurance
carrier, and they did advise that the skate park is a liability risk. TML will insure the
park; however, certain criteria needs to be established for safety issues to keep the city
from being liable for injuries.
Cecile Canon advised that last week in a conference she attended there were 6 cities
addressing Graffti problems. Othen had vandalism problems with the skate park.
Thomas Muir indicated that the time frame for the skate park was 2008-2009 and the
Comprehensive Master Plan will be completed by that time and it will address whether
it is appropriate for the size, location and liability.
Cecile Carson indicated staff's recommendation is to implement Phase I on the Park
and the other items for that park be placed on hold until the Comprehensive Master
Plan is completed. This would give the city an opportunity for Park Planning on a
community perspective.
Discussion regarding the Projects in Phase I, II and m. The fund allocation for the
skate park was discussed as well as the need not to remove the project and to research
a better location.
John Payne emphasized that this project can be masked with safety issues and liability
issues. He is questioning the intent of this entire issue, and whether it was due to the
persons who will use the facility. Mr. Payne indicated that 54 of the signatures on the
petition came from 27 houses. He question the liability concern or whether the real
issue was the class of people. The City has a public pool and that is a liability to the
city.
Discussion continued on not eliminating the Skate park but to find a location that
would be centralized. This would allow time for research.
Cecile Carson indicated there are many needs and issues for Parks in the community.
The Comprehensive Plan process does include a review of what is available and will
include recommendations of what the city needs. This will include surveying the users
to find out needs for a skate park and soccer fields or other park activities. The
development of an implementation strategy on which years to implement which
projects was discussed.
Discussion continued regarding the skate park and how they can succeed. City of
Sherman has a skate park and it is successful.
Cecile advised that at the last Board meeting the members voted to approve funding
these projects, which authorized them to forward their recommendation to City
Council. The state laws require 48 to conduct one Public Hearing.
Discussion and concerns were expressed on the fund request on allowing adequate
funding to complete this project from start to finish and the different phases for each
project.
Discussion from the public regarding not having adequate notice.
Discussion that at the last meeting the board approved the projects and the monies. The
Board did not decide to spend the funds all in one year. There was a request at the last
meeting that staff provide a time line on the completion of projects.
Discussion on the time line for the projects, other future project requests, and
fmancing for other these projects.
Thomas Muir emphasized the importance of the Comprehensive Master Plan.
Citizens continued to express rejection to the skate park in their neighborhood.
President Armstrong continued with the Public Hearing on the Presbyterian Church.
Kem Green addressed the board in favor of this project. She inquired on the time
fnme on the funds allocated and on the bidding process.
Discussion on the bidding process and bidden whose expertise needs to be renovations
of historical structures. The Board discussed what still needs to completed on the
building.
The last item on the Public Hearing was the analysis from Buxton Marketing.
There was not any one who for or against this project.
President Armstrong declared public hearing closed.
3. Discuss and Consider By-Law Amendments.
Cecile Canon addressed this item and advised that in a review of the bylaws they do
not reflect dates for actions to occur.
Ms. Canon advised that in Section IV -4.05 -it currently indicates a specific date and
time for their meetinp. Ms. Canon suggested that this be omitted from the by-laws
since meetinp may vary. She also suggested the annual meeting be changed to July
which coincides with the City Council board appointments. The officen serve a one
year term from July through July of each year. The terms of the member are for two
yean and may serve for an unlimited time.
Discussed officen who were appointed last year.
Motion was made by John Payne to adopt the Amendments as recommended.
Seconded by Thomas Muir. Motion carried unanimously.
4. Review Financials
President Armstrong discussed the financials with the memben.
5. List of Future Agenda Items
a. John Payne indicated that if they are paying somebody to take care of this
Board at a SlN.00 a month, and that he signs the checks, that the memben
need to have in their possession a copy of those minutes from the previous
meeting and fmancials. He understood that there was a problem with the City
Secretary last month but it makes perfect sense to him.
City Secretary indicated that minutes have always been presented to the board
and not having them was due to circumstances. She will make sure every
month that the minutes and financials will be in their packets.
b. John Springer indicated that at the last meeting they had one item that was
deleted, which was SS,NO to UNT. Mr. Springer indicated years ago when be
was with the school system in the department of special education they
contracted with the University of North for services for two yean. The benefit
they received in services was excellent. He felt it was wise to spend the SS,ON
dollars for a foot in the door at the University. He emphasized that it would
benefit Sanger.
Nel Armstrong indicated that she undentood that this market analysis that
Buxton Marketing was conducting was similar to this.
Cecile Canon indicated UNT was proposing to conduct an analysis on incentive
policies which would be different. There would be an opportunity to redefine
this.
Beverly Branch asked if a representative from the University could come and
visit with the board on what they can do.
Ms. Carson indicated that she can certainly bring someone to discuss this with
the board. She also indicated this would promote free publicity for the city.
Discussion followed on having a City website and possibly posting agendas on
the Chamber Website. Discussed that staff is currently trying to get a City
Website in place and posting agendas on the Chamber Website is not possible
at this time due to stafrmg.
Approved