05/13/1986-PZ-Minutes-RegularMINUTES: Planning and Zoning Commission
May 13, 1986
MEMBERS
PRESENT: Chairperson Billye Hollingsworth, Tommy Kincaid,
Fred Yeatts, Eileen Brittian, and Bill Enlow
MEMBERS
ABSENT: Joe Waide and Georgia Royal
OTHERS
PRESENT: Mary Jo Stover, Richard Brown, Don and JoAnn Holson,
and Sylvester Bohmann
1. Tommy Kincaid acting Chairperson called the meeting to order.
2. The minutes of the April 24, 1986 meeting were approved as
printed.
3. The Commissioners considered the preliminary subdivision
plat of Choctaw Ridge Phase III for Don Holson.
Mr. Holson gave his remarks regarding the plat. He stated
there had been some rumors, accusations, things said about
what had been going on at Choctaw Ridge. First of all, he
stated the county had not approved anything, nor been asked
to approve anything, nothing has been approved. Holson stated
he had been doing dirt work out there. He said those that
are familiar with the land know there are three terraces
that go across and angle across the land. He said he was
unable to figure out what the land was like until he cut
some roads through it and that'swhat he did. Stated he had
the surveyor come out, mark it off tentatively, and graded
the roads where they were going to be, then.told the surveyor
that it was set and they were ready to go. The roads are
not complete, there has not been any gravel put on them.
Holson stated that Sam Tipton had been aligned, talked about
doing some work on the bar ditches on Phase II. Said it
was a county road, have to get a permit, we haven't done
anything on it, can't do anything on it until they give us a
permit. Holson stated that Tipton didn't like putting the
water lines in after the roads were in because of the indenta-
tion. He said they were going to put water in before the
roads were finished. Holson stated that this should suffice
for an explanation unless someone had questions. He went on
to state that this was a continuation of Phase II on the
east side of Duck Creek. The minimum size being 1-1/3 acres.
This is more than enough requirement to set the septic tank,
the verocity test have been made, they're not on this plat
but will be on the final plat, and there is an indicator of
45. More than enough room for septic tank system. He stated
the subdivision was highly restricted, carrying the same
restrictions as Phase I and II. Minimum size house is 1850
square feet for a single story. Minimum for a two story would
be 2200 square feet. No move -ins allowed, no trailers, every-
thing to be built on site, custom built. He stated any out
buildings would have to be architecturally acceptable to the
house on the lot. Discussion.
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Tommy Kincaid asked Holson if he had discussed the possibility
of opening up the street on the extreme east end of his
property that joins Bennie Parrent's property. Holson stated
he had not, that Parrent was not an easy person to work with.
Kincaid stated in the future of the community and on Sanger's
.behalf that it might really pay Holson to get a street opened
into the Parrent property. That it would be good if the need
for emergency equipment to access the area ever came up.
Holson stated he owns 40 acres of land that joins the Snider
property and as that land is developed and if the city sees
fit at that time to want to have some kind of egress or
ingress from this area then it would be considered at that
time. He stated that he also owned a strip of land (he
showed commissioners on the map) 89/24/E at top, the boundary
line he owns that extends east. He owns a strip that goes all
the way out to .Keeton Road by the Ralph Amyx house and next
to the Bennie Parrent property. He stated it was land
deeded to him and if it became necessary to have an
emergency vehicle road or a fire lane when we get this one,
there will be enough people in that area where a fire road
would be advantageous, also he could deal with Craig Snider.
He said he could do a trade for access and egress with him
into his subdivision. Discussion.
Richard Brown stated he wanted to make a statement on behalf
of the city staff. He stated it appears that work has already
started and the water lines already installed underground
without inspection. He stated but the lines were Bolivar
Water lines. According to city ordinance (Rick Brown passed
out a copy of the city subdivision ordinance) which states
there shall be no construction started prior to plat approval.
Brown stated as far as the plat was concerned it was not ready
to be presented to the city. It lacked the engineers seal,
there was no certification as to the flood plan, the vicinity
plat appeared to be wrong, the road right-of-ways were not
shown, that Lot 20 was in the flood plain, the streets would
not be to city specifications but to county specifications,
no utility or drainage easements shown, no culvert pipes
are shown if needed, lot line setbacks were not shown. He
stated that city ordinance required 60 foot frontage, Lot 17,
in lower corner of map is not wide enough, shows to be 43.11
foot frontage. The center line radius curves on 2 and 3
without an engineer to go over the details does not appear
to have 300 feet as required. No proposed land use shown,
no utilities shown, no fire protection shown, Clear Creek
Street does not extend to south property line, Block Numbers
not shown, it just is not ready for a complete review at this
time.
Holson stated this was a preliminary plat not a final. Every-
thing to be shown on final plat. Discussion. Put in 2" flush
valves at end of each cul-de-sac for fire protection. Staff
stated but they are not shown on the preliminary plat.
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Staff stated that the city ordinance required that the
information listed be stated on the preliminary plat
before it is presented. Discussion. Staff presented
Mr. and Mrs. Holson with a full and complete copy of the
city's subdivision ordinance and requirements for preliminary
and final plats. Discussion.
Motion was made by Billye Hollingsworth to deny theplat as
presented. Plat to be reworked to show items required by
by city ordinance for submission of a preliminary plat.
Fred Yeatts gave the second. Voted unan.
4. With no other business to come before the commissioners,
Eileen Brittian made the motion to adjourn the meeting.
Bill Enlow gave the second. Voted unan.