07/02/1998-PZ-Agenda Packet-RegularAGENDA
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
THURSDAY, JULY 2, 1998
7:00 P.M.
201 BOLIVAR
1. Call Meeting to Order.
2. Approve Minutes.
3. Conduct Public Hearing to Consider Preliminary Plat for Ridgecrest North Phase II-A,
Lots 1 -4 Block B, & Lots 1 -4 Block C, being 10.08 acres situated in the R. Bebee
Survey, Abstract No. 29.
4. Consider and Possible Action Regarding Preliminary Plat for Ridgecrest North Phase H-
A, Lots 1 -4 Block B, & Lots 1 -4 Block C, being 10.08 acres situated in the R. Bebee
Survey, Abstract No. 29.
5. Conduct Public Hearing to Consider Preliminary Plat for Lakecrest Meadow Phase II-A,
Lots 1 -4 Block B, & Lots 1 -4 Block C, being 12.82 acres situated in the R. Bebee
Survey, Abstract No. 29.
6. Consider and Possible Action Regarding Preliminary Plat for Lakecrest Meadow Phase
II-A, Lots 1 -4 Block B, & Lots 1 -4 Block C, being 12.82 acres situated in the R.
Bebee Survey, Abstract No.
7. Any Other Such Matters.
8. Adjourn.
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Date and Time Posted
MINUTES:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
OTHERS
PRESENT:
Planning and Zoning
June 11, 1998
Charles Fenoglio, Mary Belle Sims, Peggy Haskins, Rick Carter, Joe Falls
Roy Lemons, Richard Derryberry
City Secretary Rosalie Chavez, Donna Johnson -Jack In The Box, Dwayne
Waters, Nim Ashley
1. Chairperson Fenoglio Called the Meeting to Order.
2. Approve Minutes.
Motion was made by Rick Carter to Approve Minutes of April 30, 1998. Seconded by
Mary BelJe Sims.
Motion Carried unanimously.
3. Conduct Public Hearing to Consider a Specific Use Permit for Sign Construction on
property legally described as Abstract 1241, Tract 42, also known as 903 N. Stemmons.
Chairperson Fenoglio Declared Public Hearing Opened.
Donna Johnson, Real Estate Manager for Jack In The Box, addressed the board and
indicated Jack In The Box has reviewed the town of Sanger up and down the Interstate
and has entered into a contract with Mr. Porter on the described property.
Ms. Johnson mentioned that one consideration of a national food company is the type
traffic they can pull from the freeway. Sanger was chosen because they like the area and
realized that the freeway would bring a great deal of business not only to them but to
their surrounding neighbors.
Ms. Johnson indicated in driving south to north and with the pedestrian crosswalk plus
the tum in the road makes it unlikely and very dangerous for someone to notice their
location until the last minute when they try to exit FM455 to get to their location.
Ms. Johnson continued and indicated this is the reason they applied for the variance for
the sign. They not only want to cater to the 1-35 traffic, but also the local community.
The people who are not local will be profitable to their business since they plan to
operate late hours and hope to attract late night business.
Discussion followed. Questions and concerns were addressed as to the height of the sign.
Charles Fenoglio inquired as to the possibility of the sign blowing down.
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Ms. Johnson indicated this has never happened. She indicated they have a 100 foot sign
in Hutchins, which is similar to the location here in Sanger, and they also have a 120 foot
sign in Houston. They have never had any problems with any of their signs. They have
the best people build the best product. Ms. Johnson also indicated they have insurance
to cover any problems, and again she stressed how they always build a good product to
make sure they do not have problems with any of their sign structures.
Joe Falls addressed the possibility of using billboards.
Ms. Johnson indicated they do not prefer billboards, but rather their signage on their own
property. She indicated as a national company it makes a difference as to whether they
can get the business by their own signage.
Joe Falls indicated that the City Administrator's memorandum states City Staff is opposed
to the request, and in respect to their judgement and with what she is saying regarding
the traffic from the north the City already has a tremendous congestion problem on
FM455 during the day, especially during the school year.
People getting off the freeway to go to the opposite side probably will not do so a second
time, and if they do, they will more than Jikely go north to Belz Road, exit and come
back around.
Ms. Johnson indicated Interstate travelers typically are not frequent travelers along the
same corridors, and based on their information they will move on if they miss an exit.
Ms. Johnson stated when they first called the City their indications were that this would
be a request that the P&Z Board could positively consider. They were advised by a
couple of employees when they first called that they would be wamlly received and were
encouraged to proceed, and she is surprised as to what prompted the recommendation
staff had made.
Discussion on the height of the sign, and another issue discussed was why they did not
work out the sign permit prior to signing the contract with Mr. Porter.
Ms. Johnson indicated they have 90 days after signing the contract to obtain building
permit, sign permit and all of their due diligences, environmentals, title survey, everything
that would be required to purchase the property.
Discussion followed again as to the height of the sign. The wrap around drive around the
Chevron was discussed which is how the people will get to their location. The intent is
to build centerage for the businesses around their location.
City Secretary inquired as to the replats of the property, and did indicate she will check
and get the information, and then get back to her regarding the issue.
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Again, Ms. Johnson stated that the only reason they want this 100 foot sign is to attract
the Interstate business.
City Secretary stated the surrounding property owners who were sent letters have no
objections to the request.
Chairperson Fenoglio Declared the Public Hearing Closed.
4. Consider and Possible Action Regarding Specific Use Pennit for Sign Construction on
property legally described as Abstract 1241, Tract 42, also known as 903 N. Stemmons.
There was some discussion prior to the motion being made. Issues again addressed were:
(1) 100 foot height of the sign.
(2) Location of the signage on their property.
(3) Smaller sign on the wrap around was to code.
(4) Question arose as to whether 100 foot sign would be contingent as to whether or
not Jack In The Box would come to Sanger. (Ms. Johnson indicated it would be,
however, Charles Fenoglio stated P&Z is a recommending board, and that Council
will make the final decision.)
Motion was made by Joe Falls to Disapprove the Specific Use Pennit as requested.
Seconded by Mary Belle Sims.
Motion Carried unanimously.
City Secretary advised the request would be on the Council agenda for Monday night, and
again stressed that Council had the final decision.
5. Conduct Public Hearing to Consider a Zoning Request Change from Agricultural to 1-1
on property legally described as Abstract 71A Burleson, Tract 1, Acres 0.300, and
Abstract 940A McKinney & Williams, Tract 2B, Acres 4.573. Property is located on
Cowling Road.
Chairperson Fenoglio Declared Public Hearing Opened.
Nim Ashley addressed the board indicating that their request was a zoning change from
AG'to 1-1, Class A. The change is to accommodate a very nice motor home type storage
facility. They actually will be catering to the older community.
Discussion was the location of the property which is off Cowling Road. The property is
210 feet plus 65 feet of the road.
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The building is 55 x 90 insulated fully enclosed. There will not be places for people to
work out of. Fencing has not been considered since it is not visible from the road. There
are no intentions of outside lighting, however, maybe in the future they will consider it.
The building will be concrete slab, and will have 12' doors, ceiling height of 14' and
guttered. The road will be a flex base buildup with 1/2 rock with a flex base on top.
They could not afford to concrete the road. The road will be a driveway entrance to the
location. The building will be a two-tone building. They are trying to attract customers
from Denton and the Lewisville area. People just do not have any place to store these
motor homes.
The 1-1 zoning was a concern.
Joe Falls indicated it is in a low traffic area; however, they must have enough area to get
the motor homes in and out.
Discussion on whether it will have drainage in the location. Nim Ashley indicated it will
not.
Brief discussion as to utility services they will need.
Chairperson Fenoglio Declared Public Hearing Closed.
6. Consider and Possible Action to Approve a Zoning Request Change from Agricultural to
1-1 on property legally described as Abstract 71A, Burleson Tract 1, Acres 0.300, and
Abstract 940A McKinney & Williams, Tract 28, Acres 4.573. Property is located on
Cowling Road.
Motion was made by Joe Falls to Approve the Zoning Change. Seconded by Rick Carter.
Motion Carried unanimously.
7. Any Other Such Matters.
None.
8. Adjourn.
Motion was made by Mary Belle Sims. Seconded by Rick Carter.
Motion Carried unanimously.
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