10/15/1984-CC-Minutes-RegularMINUTES: City Council
October 15, 1984
PRESENT: Mayor ARmstrong, Benny Bridges, Danny Spindle, Freddy Inman,
and H. W. Thomas
ABSENT: Carolyn Adkins -Surgery
OTHERS PRESENT: Lloyd Henderson, Mary Jo Stover, Bill Switzer,
Mary Burrows, Ida Pearl Brown, Erma Fellers,
Dave Fellers, Red Gentle, Betsy Gentle, Russ
Mollahan, Lucille Houghton, Ruth Cain, Evelyn
Colston, Billie Childress, E. Gray, J.P. Hampton,
Roy Gray, Ruby Gray, Craig Waggoner; Ed Beene,
David R. Hood, Merwyn Tucker, Dorothy Thompson,
Babe Watkins., Vera Patterson, Karen Lake, Gary
Lake, Rev. Russell McDonnell, Pat Ficorilli-
Sanger Courier, Herb Arledge, Russ Madden.
1. Councilman Bridges gave the invocation and Mayor Armstrong
led the pledge to the flag.
2. The minutes of the September 17, 1984 and October 1, 1984
meetings were approved as printed.
3. Thomas made a motion to approve disbursements for a total
of $136,718.13. Spindle gave the second. Voted unan.
4. Inman made a motion to approve Sanger Electric Capital
Improvements in the amount of $9,293.42. Spindle gave: the
second. Voted unan.
5. Motion was made by Bridges to award the bid on a 1985 Police
Unit to Hi1z-Snider Chevrolet for a total net bid of $9,934.00.
Thomas gave the second. Discussion. Mayor Armstrong went
over the warranty on the vehicle as stated in a letter from
Hilz-Snider.
The basic warranty period is 12 months or 12000 miles, which-
ever comes first. The complete vehicle is covered during
this period for defects in workmanship and material with the
exception of tires and normal maintenance items.
Following expiration of the basic warranty coverage and subject
to a $100 deductible: The powertrain coverage, which includes
all internal engine, transmission, and differential parts,
begins and extends to 24 months or 24000 miles whichever
occurs first.
Vehicles which are used in police orcther emergency service are
not eligible for the 48 month or 50000 mile GM Continuous
Protection Plan.
Motion to accept was voted unan.
6. Motion was made by Spindle to award the bid on a 1985 3/4 T.
Pickup for the Electric Department to Bill Utter Ford, Inc.
for a total bid price of $102616. This bid includes a 5 yr.
warranty or 60,000 miles. Bridges gave the second. Voted unan.
7. Motion was made by Inman to approve the final subdivision
plat on Lots lA and 1B, Block 1, Hughes Addition for Harold
Easley. Thomas gave the second. Voted unan.
8. Inman made the motion to table this item until Harold Easley
could be available to answer questions. Bridges gave the
second. Voted unan.
9. Fire Chief Merwyn Tucker spoke to council regarding the bids
on the new Fire Truck. Chief Tucker stated that the fire
department committee recommended the bid be accepted from
Lone Star Fire Equipment Co. for $85,992. Tucker advised
council that the truck was a stock truck. He stated it will
be basically a new truck. Tucker stated he had talked with
the Midlothian Dept. that has this same truck and that they
are well pleased.
The city manager at this time brought to coLOLL 11% '0 attention
that the department had made out an additional list of needed
items for the truck totalling to $3,990. $800. additonal for
a power lift for the cab. $20. additional for a 14' ladder
instead of a 10' that was bid for a total additional needed
of $4,810. This amount would bring the total cost to $90,802
instead of 85,992 .
Lloyd advised council that the recommendation of the Fire
Dept. Committee is that the equipment be added and paid for
in one item.
Lloyd distributed to council a 5, 7, and 10 year payout scale
showing down payment, and totals for each period. Mayor
Armstrong asked if the 10 yr. option was agreed upon, and
in the future the city could possibly pay off before that time,
would the city be obligated for the full ten years? David
Hood with Lone Star stated there is no penalty for early pay
)ff.
Mr. Ed Beene with Sunfire ask to speak to council. He stated
he had been led down a rosy path on this fire truck. He
stated he had brought up a demo and that no way could Lone
Star's unit meet the specs. Financing and warranty were
discussed. Beene stated he did not receive a bid packet.
He said body wise that Sunfire had the less expensive truck
and that Sunfire did not turn in an alternate bid as Lone
Star had since the City had stated exactly what they wanted.
Gasoline and diesel engines were discussed. Danny Spindle
stated that he had talked to several of the firemen since the
gasoline engine was so much cheaper but the firemen wanted
to go with the diesel. Certification, transmission, cabs and
EPA requirements were discussed.
Motion was made by Freddy Inman to reject all bids. Inman
requested that the new specs be very specific and optional
equipment requested by the fire department be included,
and that the new bids on both gasoline and diesel trucks.
Wendall Thomas gave the second. Voted unan.
The mayorirstructed Fire Chief Tucker to select a committee
to see what the Fire Dept.wants and see that the specs are
written accordingly. She further instructed the city manager
to help draw up the specs.
10. Mrs. Dorothy Thompson, Director of the SPAN Program in Sanger,
spoke on behalf of SPAN concerning the recent council action
not to make the Community Center available on Wednesday s for
SPAN meals.
Mrs. Thompson stated that one of the senior citizens had
recently said to her that "I have heard rumors - I understand
that there is a movement to force us out of the center. Is
this or is it not a Community Center. If we're not part
of the community what are we.
Mayor Armstrong, Mr. Henderson, Members of Council, thank
you for the privilege of speaking before you tonite.
As Director of the Sanger Span Program, I am here to ask that
you reconsider your decision to deny Span's request for the
use of the Sanger Community Center on Wednesdays; and, also,
to question the recommendation made by the Community Center
committee that the Sanger senior citizens who attend the SPAN
Program held at the Center, seek other quarters for their
activities in the future.
Following the local paper's report about the action of Council
and the recommendation of the Community Center Committee,
many comments and reactions have been brought to me and,
listening to them,,I have discovered that there are some who
hold misconceptions about SPAN - its purposes and its methods
of operation. Therefore, I will speak briefly on SPAN's
background and how and why it came into existence.
Firest: SPAN is not a social club. The name SPAN is an acronym
standing for Service Program for Aging Needs and the program
was instituted ten years ago by concerned private citizens
from Denton who recognized that many of the elderly had
needs that were being overlooked. The program was established
as a private agency and its purpose is to provide senior
citizens those services which are most needed to permit them
to live independently and to remain an active part of the
community. With a fleet of nine vehicles, including four
equipped with wheel chair lifts, SPAN provides more than
3,000 trips to citizens of Denton County every month. This
service enables them to shop, to go to the doctor, and, in
some cases, allows them the opportunity to work as volunteers.
Also, from its satellite kitchen located in Heritage Oaks,
SPAN delivers hot noon meals to the Denton Senior Center,
Lewisville Senior Center, Phoenix Apartments Center, Pilot
Point Senior Center, and Sanger Community Center. And also
serves these meals to the people from the Heritage Oaks Center.
Another service of Span is the deliverance of meals to the
homebound: those too ill or too infirm to come to the Centers.
Second: Some people hold the misconception that SPAN is a
Federal Program. It is not. It is a voluntary non-profit
organization. Fifty percent of its funding comes from the
Older American Act. The rest comes from private sources and
from clubs and organizations - the Denton Kiwanians donated
$8,000 to the program during SPAN's first year of existence.
It receives support from the United Fund, as well as funding
from the cities of Lewisville and Denton and each year the
county has contributed. A considerable portion of SPAN's
funding comes from money donated by the senior citizen who
uses SPAN's services.
Third: SPAN is not charity. Most of those who use SPAN's
services donate towards them; however, there are some. who find
this impossible because of limited incomes but this is no
deterrant - they still qualify. Span's purpose is to aid all
the elderly - regardless of their ability to pay.
As people age, their needs change and one of their prime
needs is that for companionship and association with others.
Family structures have often changed - children have married
and moved away, friends have passed on and, sadly, and all too
frequently, any are left alone and lonely following the loss
of a husband or wife, and loneliness is one of the cruelest
hardships that the elderly are forced to endure. SPAN
Centers help to counteract this. Many who attend the centers
do so as much for the fellowship they find in them as they do to
partake of the norishing noon meals.
Our Sanger SPAN membership is not one of organization - as
I mentioned earlier, we are not a club. We have neither
offices or officers. We have no planned actiivites such as
Arts and Crafts programs sponsored by Senior Citizen Centers
in other areas - the Sanger Community Center is not set up
for such things, but the people do enjoy quiet entertainment
through their conversations with each other and by playing
the ongoing table games. One of our members, Babe Watkins,
a talented pianist, plays for us daily and often the members
join her in group singing. Sometimes I sing, too - alone -
but so far this has caused no problem with the membership.
We're still continuing to grow. We have taken field trips,
with transportation furnished by SPAN, and have visited
spots such as the Gainesville Zoo where we held a picnic
on the park grounds, and we have travelled to other SPAN
Centers where we met their members and joined them in a
luncheon. We hold monthly birthday parties to honor
members born on each particular month and last December we
sponsored a Christmas bazaar, held at the Center, which
offered SPAN members, and other senior citizens from the
community, an opportunity to display and sell their crafts.
The Center had been decorated at that time by SPAN members
who used the beautiful trimmings furnished by the city and
it truly reflected the spirit of the season. Friendships
have developed among the members and we have come to share
much with each other; both joys and sorrows alike.
I have found the people who attend Sanger's SPAN to be gentle,
kind, and caring and my life has been enriched through my
association with them.
In order that the elderly receive the benefits of SPAN as
much as possible, the SPAN Centers have been asked to operate
on a five day weekly schedule. With the exception of Sanger,
all the other Centers in Denton County are now functioning
in this manner. Since the other programs are located in
Senior Citizen Centers, no problems exist regarding the
weekly use of the buildings; however, since Sanger's is
located in the city's Community Center, the request for
increased usage was denied. The reason, I understand, is
that others in the Community might desire to use the open
Wednesday date.
It is not our wish to monopolize the building, "hog it" is
the term that I have heard, nor do we wish to deny its use
to others at any time. We recognize that the building is a
Community Center- not a Senior Center - and, as such, should be
available to all citizens whenever they have a need for it.
Our time at the Center is in the early part of the day from 9:30 in the morning to 1:30 in the afternoon - hours when
most people have no need to use the Center. As far as I can
recall, there has been but one request for early morning use
of the building and that was from the group which was serving
breakfast to the members of Sanger High School's graduating
class. Those participants were gone, and the building cleared
by the time our program began. However, if there ever would
be a need for it during the time of our occupancy, we'd be
most willing to relinquish our time - be it a Wednesday or
any other day that we're open. We're flexible - all we ask
is that we be notified early enough in order for us to re-
arrange our schedules and to make other plans for that day -
such as arrangements for a field trip or a visit to another
Center.
The WICS people will be using the Center's facilities every
Thursday afternoon from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. and we'll have no
problem with this scheduling. Our program ends at 1:30 so
by 2*00 p.m. the building will be cleared and all of SPAN's
materials removed by the time the WIC's group will be meeting.
Since the Wednesday Study Club will hold only a limited number
of meetings at the Center, couldn't SPAN be given permission
to use those Wednesdays that will be left open: If this would
be granted, everyone from the Center would be most grateful
to Council for its consideration of its Senior Citizen's
needs.
If I was disappointed by Council's refusal to grant SPAN's
request, I was stunned when I read that the Community Center
Committee had made the recommendation that the senior citizens
search for other quarters in the future. Since none from the
Committee ever visited our Center or consulted with me before
making its recommendation, I can only hope that its action
was based on misinformation. I would like now to invite the
committee members to visit with us - at any time -and to share in
our delicious meals, in order that they become more fully
informed about our operation.
Should the senior citizens be forced to leave the Center, this
most probably would mean the end of the SPAN Program in Sanger,
As far as I know, there are no suitable places available, and,
even if there were, the program would still have to close
for SPAN does not have the funding to refurbish and to equip
a new area in order to make it useable.
Mayor Armstrong explained to Mrs. Thompson and all the con-
cerned citizens at the meeting that she felt some misunder-
standings had occurred and that she would like to clarify some
misconceptions from Mrs. Thompson's talk.
Mayor Armstrong stated the Community Center Committee and City
Council were both well aware of all the good that the SPAN
does. She said it is not now or ever was the intention of
council or the committee to kick SPAN out in the cold or
place them in some inadequate facility. She stated there was
a problem and the city recognized it. Mayor Armstrong stated
since the building was given to and purchased for the city
to be used by all citizens and because it is used four days
a week on a regular basis by SPAN that she was told by one
in charge of one group who would like to use the buildings
occasionally during the noon hour but would not even ask
because they realized SPAN was already there and they were
not aware SPAN could go somewhere else. She was very quick
to note that this was not the Wednesday Study Club group.
Mayor Armstrong further commented that the Wednesday Study
Club had from the beginning asked to use the building on
Wednesdays at some time. She noted that SPAN they could use
the facility after they were through. She stated a group
wishing to use the building might like to get in a little
early to prepare for their meetings.
Mayor Armstrong mentioned that SPAN had on occasion left
their tables and equipment out and set up for the next day.
Nel stated she had said all this to say that the city was not
-, against SPAN and she felt the city had been given a lot of
bad press. Mayor Armstrong commented that the way the matter
should have been handled was for the SPAN group to meet with the
Community Center Committee and then let the committee come back
to council with another recommendation. She stated the city
must consider everybody.
Mrs. Thompson stated if that had been the way it should have
been handled why she was not told. Mayor Armstrong stated,
"I just forgot."
Mrs. Thompson advised Mayor Armstrong the next time a group
backs away from requesting use of the building to please
advise her. Mayor Armstrong stated she just wanted SPAN
to understand the city's position.
County Commissioner, Bill Switzer, ask to speak and was
recognized. He stated he and his wife had given the land
and that the church membership had given the building. He
stated it was not to be a building for any one group - it
needs to be more diversified. Switzer recommended a meeting
between the Committee and members of SPAN and that Dorothy
Thompson be advised of the meeting.
Eddie Romines, Chairman of the Community Center Committee,
stated that each committee member was from a different
church. He stated that the committee was getting pressure
from one end about usage. He stated that most SPAN facilities
were located in Senior Centers except for Sanger. He said the
committee wanted to try within the next year to find a better
facility for SPAN. He stated the committee was checking other
facilities in order to have SPAN and the Community Center
available.
Romines to set up meeting with SPAN and discuss the problem.
11. Motion was made by Bridges to participate in the Municipal
Electric Employee Training Program at A & M at a cost of
$1700.48. Spindle gave the second. Voted unan.
12. The itemized statement of the cost to the Sanger Electric
System for relocating the electric service at the elementary
school was discussed. The relocation was necesary because
of the construction of the new building.
Motion was made by Danny Spindle that the city charge the
Sanger I.S.D. for the total cost of $1940.18 for the relocation
of the electric service at the elementary school. Overtime
charge, contractor bid, and cooperation between city and
school was discussed. Motion died for lack of a second.
Motion was made by Bridges that the city pay for the materials
and transportation and that the school district pay the labor
charge of $1,038.44. Inman gave the second. Voted unan.
13. Motion was made by Thomas to adopt a resolution protesting
the Denton County Appraisal Districts 1985 estimated
budget. Bridges gave the second. Voted unan.
14. Motion was made by Inman to table the item on asphalt
paving at the Middle School. Bridges gave the second. Voted
unan.
15. Council received a statement from Brazos Electric in the amount
of $8,446.49 for a long.range planning study of Sanger Electric
System. The December 1982 council minutes reflect that council
approved an expenditure not to exceed $4600 for the study.
Motion was made by Bridges to pay the $4600 as approved by
council in December of 1982. Thomas gave the second. Voted unan.
16. Eddie Romines presented the council with three recommendations
of the Community Center Committee:
(1) That the City Council request by letter that the Wednesday
Study Club take over the Community Center as overseers.
He stated the committee was not trying to eliminate any-
one. They wanted a very short and simple agreement.
Russ Madden corrected Romines stating the committee
would draw up the letter if council agreed to recommendation.
(2) The committee wants to make the Chamber of Commerce aware
if they do need the use of the building that they can
use it. They have given money for it.
(3) Russ Madden to meet with Methodist Church and talk to
Span about using their building.
Discussion. It was noted that the Wednesday Study Club wants
the request to come from Council. The previous agreement from
Study Club was discussed. Spindle stated in reading what came
first there was no way he would have voted for it. Some of the
council agreed. Mayor Armstrong stated she had been in on this
since the beginning and the intent of the Study Club was to
serve as a hostess and see that necessary care and repairs
were done. Romines stated that the whole point was to let the
Study Club take care of it.
Motion was made by Inman to accept the recommendations of the
Community Center. Thomas gave the second. Voted unan.
17. Other Such Matters:
(a) The Trinity Chapel Church pastor requested council approve
their building permit prior to annexation. Lloyd stated
that the church had complied with all of council's
previous request. Since no official action could be
taken it was the common consensus of the council to
approve the building permit contingent upon the plat being
o.k.'d by Lloyd.
(b) Mayor Armstrong made council aware a city manager and
mayor's meeting at the Community Room at Westgate Hospital,
Thursday evening at 7:30 p.m. The topic of the meeting
is the Roles and Responsibility of Elected Officials.
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She urged council and city manager to attend.
(c) Lloyd advised council that he had received a request from
a citizen of the possibility of putting up a stop sign
on FM 455 and the frontage road. Lloyd instructed to
write letter to state.
(d) Lloyd informed council that the city would be trying
to take down the dead trees on 5th Street in the very near
future,
Motion was made by Inman to adjourn the meeting.
second. Voted unan.
City Secretary
Mayor
MINUTES: City Council Special Called Meeting
October 24, 1984
Bridges gave the
PRESENT: Mayor Armstrong, Spindle, Inman and Thomas
ABSENT: Bridges and Adkins
OTHERS PRESENT: Lloyd Henderson, Mary Jo Stover, C. G. McNeill, and
Herbert Arledge
1. Mayor Armstrong declared the special called meeting of the
city council open for business.
2. Council convened to Executive Session to consider the appointment
of a Director for Sanger Electric System.
3. Council reconvened to open session. Thomas made the motion to
hire Mr. Don Waddell as Director for Sanger Electric System
at a salary of $27,500 plus a moving allowance of $500. Spindle
gave the second. Voted unan.
Motion was made by Thomas to adjourn the meeting.. Inman gave the
second. Voted unan.
ity Secretary
Mayor